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#1 KennyLee
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posted 02-02-2001 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KennyLee   Click Here to Email KennyLee     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Barely a week old and the agreement has been changed.

Initially, the $20.00 a month covered all your artists. Now, it is being reported that MP3.com is changing the deal!

You now have to pay separately for each artist. Even if they are all you under a bunch of weird names.

Well, since most of the 100,000 artists on MP3.com are all the same guy with a buncha weird names. You can imagine the stir this is causing.

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#2 deel
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posted 02-02-2001 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deel   Click Here to Email deel     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
maybe this will finally determine how many artists are actually on the site..

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#3 KennyLee
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posted 02-02-2001 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KennyLee   Click Here to Email KennyLee     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Good point, deel. Especially if MP3.com goes to P4P for premium artists only.

Me, Myself, and I have 10 artists there.

And I'm not really serious about it.

Anyhow, the word is that people were starting to stick a lot of existing artists under 1 ID. I guess MP3.com got afraid that they would end up with only 1 premium artist. Managing 100,000 artists.

But in this case, I think their fears were not justified and that MP3.com made a huge business mistake. Endangering there new big money maker.

Hey, all of the artists I manage are just me. And I imagine it's the same way for the vast majority. Pushing the monthly fee up to $200.00 a month or more for most people.

I mean, some people have speculated that the Snake Crew is all Rene.

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#4 Snake Crew
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posted 02-02-2001 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake Crew   Click Here to Email Snake Crew     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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I mean, some people have speculated that the Snake Crew is all Rene.

it is me I'm usually the only one that posts under that handle... there is a copycat at Napster speak out.

I have 10 or more artists in my NMA

Mp3.com ....I pulled Harvey Mandel's content out of there.

they'd have to pay me(Premiums)I'm going to show them if they didn't already know Harvey"The Snake"Mandel is a premium Artist that means you want him you fucking pay not me. Also I want page and chart position thrown in on the deal or guess what.
You get those other suckers to pay I'm not
they have it backwards with us.
I'm damn affronted by that crap.
I've taken umbrage screw them.

the net other than napster and the like is a dead issue.

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#5 KennyLee
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posted 02-02-2001 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KennyLee   Click Here to Email KennyLee     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Snake Crew:
the net other than napster and the like is a dead issue.

Well, there may be more. On the rest of the net (outside of MP3.com) they actually pay for content. AOL, for example, pays for content. emusic pays for content.

MP3.com is acting like they have absolutely no competition.

Who knows, may be true.

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#6 deel
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posted 02-02-2001 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deel   Click Here to Email deel     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
pay no attention to the site behind the curtain


heh..

from my little computer chair i sit and wonder...
how could a site with so much potential for helping the independent music scene become such a leech to them.

unless they are shaking the tree to clean the house out for the corporate labels..

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#7 2-Time
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posted 02-02-2001 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2-Time   Click Here to Email 2-Time     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

I thought it was curtains for napster Rene'.

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#8 KennyLee
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posted 02-02-2001 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KennyLee   Click Here to Email KennyLee     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by deel:

how could a site with so much potential for helping the independent music scene become such a leech to them.

Well? To play devils advocate here?

Most of us are getting what we got when we first signed up at mp3.com. It's just that they are charging us for the new stuff.

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#9 Hatchet Man
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posted 02-02-2001 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hatchet Man   Click Here to Email Hatchet Man     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
"unless they are shaking the tree to clean the house out for the
corporate labels" deel

Hmmmmmmm........ pondering the obvious.

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#10 KennyLee
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posted 02-03-2001 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KennyLee   Click Here to Email KennyLee     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hatchet Man:
Hmmmmmmm........ pondering the obvious.


Well, HM it doesn't seem that obvious to me. The only thing MP3.com has going for it is the undying devotion of the independent artists. Many of whom now pay for the privilege.

Major label artists are everywhere on the world wide web. Not just Napster.

I mean, MP3.com is nice and all. But if I want major label action? I ain't gonna stream it from MP3.com. There are lots of better ways to get major label music than MP3.com.

And, if MP3.com did go All Major Label/No Indies as some suggest? I believe they would fade quickly into the great mass of websites, never to be seen again.

Since day 1 the independents have supported MP3.com. Lifted it to the highest heights. If they ever find a way to run them off? That's all she wrote.

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#11 Hatchet Man
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posted 02-03-2001 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hatchet Man   Click Here to Email Hatchet Man     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Since we are ol buds here, please call me Hatch, Kenny. Seems that the CON is pushing the envelope a lot further right now, re: that true believer loyalty.

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#12 Davey Boy Crocky
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posted 02-04-2001 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Davey Boy Crocky   Click Here to Email Davey Boy Crocky     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I find it ironic and, well, kinda sad that mp3.com cannot seem to even be able to fleece gullible artists without screwing it up.

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#13 KennyLee
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posted 02-05-2001 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KennyLee   Click Here to Email KennyLee     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yep, Davey Boy. They had a good thing going.

They could have waited a month or two before pulling the plug on multiple-artists-which-are-all-the-same-guy.

I mean even AOL gives you 5 screen names for $19.99 a month. Plus they provide an internet connection too.

But just when you think MP3.com is getting their shit together? Rod Underhill returns.

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#14 STILL
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posted 02-05-2001 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for STILL   Click Here to Email STILL     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
in the future there will be a few very well-known sites that will be the main portals for a significant percentage of the digital transmission of bought and streamed entertainment media.

Mp3.com is trying to position themselves as one of those portals, as well as trying to find viable revenue streams for the interim until that becomes the normal mode of buying music.

That's why they're trying to get people to pay, they need a way to survive until that happens. But they are still gonna get rid of, or backburner the artists that they built that company from..........this is just gonna keep getting worse.

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#15 KennyLee
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posted 02-05-2001 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KennyLee   Click Here to Email KennyLee     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by STILL:
..........this is just gonna keep getting worse.

Well, I don't see how it can get any worse, Wade. From a business point of view. MP3.com's stock is in the dumper. They live today because of one bit hit on IPO day.

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#16 STILL
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posted 02-05-2001 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for STILL   Click Here to Email STILL     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
worse for anybody with even a mild case of Hamsteritis.......

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#17 Hatchet Man
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posted 02-05-2001 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hatchet Man   Click Here to Email Hatchet Man     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Where are those "Hamster Chronicles"? May I post them on Ampcast?

K, this unusual for me but I am askin' a fave from all of you. I would love to kick Mickey D. off of his perch on the BeSonic Alt Country Chart. If you can find the time, how about DLing Phil Frazier Alt Country songs? I mentioned this to one of my daughters and she said that I was regressing to the age of 15. Hey, I don't consider that a bad thing.
http://www.besonic.com/Chooser/Post/1,1526,g4r3l0t0o0i0,00.html?

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